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Post by WTFWILL on Mar 3, 2010 14:00:04 GMT -5
To be fair, I'm not really sure why Vic or Amos need 'admin status' either. Dan doesn't seem to care too much either way, and Jet really can handle the taken list and stuff. The way I see it now, Ryan, Gina, and Joe are the main admins of the fed (as Anson and I discussed tonight). Clip writes and judges but doesn't really do too much in the day-to-day of the fed. To be fair, when Amos, Vic, and myself were given those powers, we did a lot in the day-to-day of the fed and we therefore needed them. It's never been altered because as far as I can tell, it's never needed to be. I can understand the feelings on Amos and Vic (as they're no longer here), and I guess to a lesser extent on myself...I'm sure you're not the only one who is thinking this way, Will--given that I've done a lot less, particularly recently, than I have in the past. The assumption is that if Amos came back full-time, ever, he would be helpful. In fact, in his brief stints back, he has shown to be. And Vic's title is at this point just that: A title. He's had no administrative influence in years when it comes to this fed, in large part because he's never been around, but nonetheless... Yes, used to. It's pointless to keep these powers around when there are people who actually help out and do stuff in the fed's day-to-day now. It gives CPW a sense of clique-ness, or hanging onto the past, or something like that. Like, "Hey, these guys have been long gone for years now, but JUST IN CASE they ever come back again, we're going to keep their mod powers!". I mean, look at it: how well have Amos & Vic's last few runs here actually been? Nothing against them, I'm just saying I don't think they should have admin powers. I also don't get this second usergroup that has been formed to kind of push the SW staff into a "here, now your name is a different color, quit bitching" fluff role.
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Post by Jet on Mar 3, 2010 14:10:52 GMT -5
It's cool Will. I don't feel inferior. I just wanted to be able to help with the join forum without having to disturb poor Joe. I believe I have done that enough while I have been here. It's not about fancy colored names to me, probably Dan, and his two pudding cups. I just wanted to help.
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Post by hugh on Mar 3, 2010 14:23:57 GMT -5
Well from what I understand Vic (and possibly Amos as well) created this federation with Ryan and Anson. If anybody should always have ADMIN powers, it should be them.
The only problem I have with the new staff is that the stars don't show up and it seriously fucks up the layout of the forums. Otherwise I don't get the whining, Will. If everybody who's helped out by writing/judging matches, making banners, running polls, or anything else get to become an Admin, then more then half this fed would be staff. I don't see any reason for you guys to be given staff positions as is, and you should just be glad the Admins decided to make it easier for you.
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Post by Joe Summers on Mar 3, 2010 14:24:11 GMT -5
Yes, used to. It's pointless to keep these powers around when there are people who actually help out and do stuff in the fed's day-to-day now. It gives CPW a sense of clique-ness, or hanging onto the past, or something like that. Like, "Hey, these guys have been long gone for years now, but JUST IN CASE they ever come back again, we're going to keep their mod powers!". The problem with the logic here is that you're assuming that because they have admin accounts, they're instantly going to be treated as such if they were to come back. That's not the case at all. Sure, they have the accounts, but...unless their characters were to be directly involved, they really wouldn't be involved in any administrative decisions. Are we essentially keeping them on for history's sake? Sure, you could argue that. But...what exactly does that hurt? They both played a large part in making CPW what it is today as admins, and we're recognizing/remembering that. You don't have to worry about them coming back and suddenly having large amounts of influence, because it simply won't happen. We know better than to allow that, and they know better than to ask for that. Why assume otherwise? Admin account or not, they have no admin powers. Unless you're trying to say that the fact that they have the ability to edit posts/whatever is that big of a deal...even though, as evidenced by the fact that neither one of them has even been around, I'm assuming they have better things to do with their time. If they come back, and them having any sort of an influence ends up being an issue? We'll handle it then. Otherwise? It's not hurting anything at all, to anyone that isn't you, apparently. Nothing against them, I'm just saying I don't think they should have admin powers. I also don't get this second usergroup that has been formed to kind of push the SW staff into a "here, now your name is a different color, quit bitching" fluff role. Fluff role? No. You're staff. You're just not an admin. Why? In the case of Dan...because he doesn't particularly care either way, and seems to recognize that he was de facto staff to begin with (as you all were, technically...just because it wasn't recognized on the boards doesn't mean that you weren't viewed as such). In the case of Jet, simply because the only thing that he really wanted a staff account for was to be able to work on the join board. He can now do that. Also, technically...neither one of them was an admin in SW. They were staff, and they were fine with that role. As for you, it's mainly because you yourself admitted that there were potential issues with you being an admin in your PM to us concerning the issues. We're simply making sure that none of them end up an issue. That's all. Besides, if all you want to do is be a part of making the fed tick, as you implied on the first page...you can now do that. Like said, you're staff, and you're officially recognized as such.
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Post by WTFWILL on Mar 3, 2010 15:34:18 GMT -5
Yeah, after reading what I posted, it sounded more whiney than I wanted it to.
Disregard it.
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Post by Katelyn Mayhem on Mar 3, 2010 18:43:43 GMT -5
Will's title has finally been changed. Now he's Anson's Left Hand. Also, anyone notice that will went from 5 stars to 3? lol (JK, no one get mad, I'm being funny)
PS why am I not on staff. that makes me angrys. expect to get very lengthy, semi-erotic, pms from me, sometime in the next millinia (<I'm highly sure that I spelled that wrong)
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Post by Clipper on Mar 9, 2010 0:51:36 GMT -5
Yeah, after reading what I posted, it sounded more whiney than I wanted it to. Disregard it. So just...do what I usually do with your posts? =D
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Post by Katelyn Mayhem on Mar 9, 2010 1:07:33 GMT -5
Hey I have something to say here so pay attention you mother fu- BOOBIES!!!
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