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Post by crusader on Jul 11, 2005 13:36:32 GMT -5
There are a lot of different styles that have developed in e-fedding over the years. Different owners judge RPs differently then others depending on style. I have noticed three main 'styles' of RPs, though there are many. I find that in any fed, it helps to be good at all three. These styles, as I have found it, are Story, Action, and Rant.
Story: My personal favorite, story-based RPs focus on advancing the main plot that has developed around your character(s), and possibly it involves outside characters hooked in by angles. These kinds of RPs tend to be written more like a narrative, concerned just with telling a good story. If you want to work on getting more story-oriented roleplays, the first place to start is usually just with your character(s) history. How'd they get into the business? What is their motivation? Where are they from? What was their childhood like? Etc...
Action: Some roleplays tend to focus more on what's happening then what is being said. Car chases, bar fights, workouts, traveling, whatever. While most RPs focus on what the characters say, these ones like to break it up with some action to keep things interesting. Action can speak louder then words, if it's done right.
Rant: When I first started e-fedding, all I wrote was a small introduction, then a 20-line rant, and a small closing statement. Rants are good ole' fashioned trash talk about your opponent or general events in the federation. While some RPs are totally rants, from start to finish, just about every roleplay should include some degree of trash-talk. It needs to be relevant to the federation and your matches. Otherwise, what is the point of being in the fed to start with? You could easily write little stories about your character's life without an e-fed. However, you don't usually need a lot of trash talk. A roleplay could easily be only 1/4 rant, and still be good enough to grab the win, in most places.
Like I said, it's easier to produce high-quality rps if you try to work on all three parts. Rant about your matches, and general events of the fed to make your RP relevant, through in some tidbits of storyline to make your characters more enthralling, and use some action to break things up and keep the pace of the RP up. At least, that is how I've managed what success I have had in the various federations over my five years. Some people are better then others, and some just like one kind more then the rest. Different combinations work for different people. Play around with different combos and see what you like most.
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Post by Eric Helms on Jul 11, 2005 17:18:30 GMT -5
While some RPs are totally rants, from start to finish, just about every roleplay should include some degree of trash-talk. It needs to be relevant to the federation and your matches. Otherwise, what is the point of being in the fed to start with? You could easily write little stories about your character's life without an e-fed. However, you don't usually need a lot of trash talk. A roleplay could easily be only 1/4 rant, and still be good enough to grab the win, in most places.
I found this so untrue that it makes my heart burst.
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Post by Kannon on Jul 11, 2005 18:08:44 GMT -5
*Agrees with teh Eric*
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Post by crusader on Jul 12, 2005 2:02:58 GMT -5
yeah, I know Eric. You don't think your Roleplays need to be relevant to your match at all and you should still win. In most places, character development RPs may help, but won't win the match for you. It may be different here, but even so I doubt one could get to far in CPW without mentioning they're matches or opponents.
Trash-talk isn't limited to being cocky. It's just words to connect your writing to the e-federation. I can't stand e-feds where a person can write 400-words about their character's entire past, and without once mentioning that e-fed or anyone else in the match, picks up a clean win.
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Post by Tommy Grace on Jul 12, 2005 7:05:04 GMT -5
yeah, I know Eric. You don't think your Roleplays need to be relevant to your match at all and you should still win. No, he thinks that they should count as equally as ones that are relevant to the match. It is different here. And many people get far with doing exactly what you said. Ask Vic. I rarely, if ever, see him mention his matches in his RPs. With Sima, I hardly EVER mention my matches. If I do, it's just the smallest mention. People get far in CPW without it. Why do you think there's that CPW 24/7 deal? So a camera follows them around and then you end up just talking about your match all the time? CPW isn't like most places. If I recall, you did this before you left. As Anastasia, no? Regardless, if you don't like it, whatever. You don't run the fed so it's not like you can do much about it. Deal with it.
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Post by Eric Helms on Jul 12, 2005 10:04:53 GMT -5
I don't think he's complaining about it Tommy. I think he's just saying what most feds accept. I get the same thing.
I quit the other fed I was in because of the fact that they said that you had to have trash talk in your rp to win matches. I lost my my first three matches because of it. It's really a shame. I tried to convince them but they just fell back on the fact that it's a wrestling efed and he should talk about wrestling. I told them that that was just his job, they said that even still he should at least mention his match.
It's sad, Charlie Mac was really coming along in my mind...I hated compromising my writing though so I quit. CPW is my home and Vic, Anson and a few others have changed my writing to where it's the only place I CAN call my home.
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Post by Joe Summers on Jul 12, 2005 10:09:44 GMT -5
...What I'm more confused about is how 400 words would win a match here. My last two intros were over 400 words...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2005 12:26:13 GMT -5
If you can label you works as "this" or "that," you're flawed.
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Post by crusader on Jul 12, 2005 13:16:14 GMT -5
Ah I see, well I apologize for wasting your time. Here I thought I was just handing out some potentially helpful advice, but I suppose I was wrong. Too bad.
I don't want to be in an e-fed where storylines are all you need to win. I can write that without an e-fed.
And it was supposed to be 400 lines, sorry for the mistype. Any place where a guy can write a short book about their character's history without being relevant to anything isn't the kind of place I want to accosiate with.
I was not Anastasia, that was a seperate person. Not that it matters to you I'm sure, the two of us were just a couple of n00bs, lesser people because we joined the fed later (or, in many cases, at the same time as).
Oh, and it was in a topic on this very board that Vic said part of what he grades RPs on is relevance. He said to me when I first joined over a year ago that he prefers RPs that mention their opponents and their matches. Then again, what do I know. I'm just a stupid n00b who could never make it into the "CPW Super-elite ultra cools guys" club, because I chose to have a different opinion.
I'll be sure not to come back and waste your time in the future. Sorry you all missed the point of e-fedding.
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Post by Eric Helms on Jul 12, 2005 23:22:57 GMT -5
...I'm so fucking pissed at this little prick...THE FUCKING POINT OF EFEDDING IS TO HAVE FUN AND NOT BE A TOTAL ASSHOLE ABOUT IT! YOU SIR HAVE FAILED ON BOTH PARTS AND SHOULD BE SODOMIZED WITH A FUCKING PINE CONE! GO BACK TO YOUR FUCKING OCW! FUCK YOU!
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Post by Joe Summers on Jul 13, 2005 0:06:49 GMT -5
First of all, Eric is right. The point of being in an efed is to have fun. And, last time I checked, telling people the way that they had to write things isn’t a way to encourage fun. It’s a way to limit the ways that people are writing to an extent, and this potentially limiting the amount of fun that they are capable of having. Which goes against what efeds are actually about.
Alright now, I can actually understand the point that you are trying to make, Hughes. Sure, I may not agree with it totally, but I can see the point that you are trying to make, and it is a valid one at that. But, the problem doesn’t lie with what your point was, but how you chose to present that point. You didn’t make it sound like you were trying to give advice to the fed, or like you were trying to get your point across…but it sounded like you felt that you were some kind of RPing deity who actually has say in matters like this. The thing is, you don’t. You can say all you want in the topic about you feel someone who doesn’t mention the match doesn’t deserve to win and things like that, but if the admins feel different than you do…then the admins win. That’s something that you will have to deal with.
Another thing that annoyed me in this topic was how you mentioned Eric’s OCW run with nearly no reason at all for doing so. He disagreed with the point that you made, and you instantly decided to bring it up, which definitely didn’t help you in your attempt to make people listen to the point that you were trying to make. Now, while Toms telling you to deal with the fact people can make it far in CPW without mentioning a match is true, it was also slightly uncalled for, and I agree with that.
Now, another thing about wrestling efeds is that, wrestling isn’t the person’s life. It’s their occupation. And last time I checked, no one was worried about their job 24/7, unless they happen to be working 24/7. So, if every RP was to mention wrestling in one form or another, it’s technically unrealistic, because you’re implying the fact that all your character cares about is the fact that they have ONE match a week over living a normal life. This is why RPs are done that happen to make no mention at all of the match the character is involved with. They are making things slightly realistic. They are making it so that it seems like your character is an actual character instead of being someone who happens to be obsessed with something that happens only once a week.
And, every character development Roleplay is somewhat relevant to an extent. It may not be relevant to the match that is happening later that week, but it may be relevant to something going on in that character’s life. It may be relevant to something that the character is going through. Just because it isn’t relevant to the match that is scheduled on the card for that week doesn’t mean that it has no purpose at all. And if you fail to realize this fact, then you aren’t intelligent enough to be fedding, IMO.
Storylines aren’t all that’s needed to win here in CPW, either. Do you want to know what is needed to win? Quality writing. If you fail to put up something of a decent quality, you will lose. Or, allow me to put it this way for you. Let’s say someone manages to put up a 10/10 RP, but it happens to be purely character development with no mention of the person’s match. Now, let’s say that the character they are facing puts up a 4/10 RP, that has to do with the match and nothing else. From what you’re saying in this topic, the fact that the one Roleplay was horrible in comparison to the other means nothing to you, because reference to the match appeared in one, while not the other. So can you honestly tell me that you feel the weaker roleplay should win because it made reference to the match while the one that was obviously better should lose because it failed to do that? Personally, as an administrator, I feel that it doesn’t matter if the roleplay is character development or a rant. Because you know what…I’m not going to screw someone who easily had the edge in quality because they failed to rant.
You know what, I’m sure that I messed up typing this and I failed to get my point across like I had hoped to. But, I hope that I’ve managed to make this coherent enough that you can make sense out of it and see the point that I’m trying to make. Hughes, you’re the same as any other member in CPW. There’s nothing that makes you more special than any of us. And, some members here have been writing this way for months…maybe even years now. So, before you go and bitch about that, why not let them write how they want while you write how you want? After all, at the end of the week, it’s going to be the quality of your writing that will have the biggest impact on whether or not you win, not what you wrote about.
So there you go. You have an opinion on this entire discussion from the point of view of an admin. Like it? Don’t like it? I really don’t care, to be honest with you.
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