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Post by hugh on Mar 13, 2010 14:33:16 GMT -5
You know, And Justive for All came around and my first thought was: 'Wait a second? Didn't we just have a PPV? And there's another one already?'
And now we've got what, two Pure Mayhems until the next PPV?
My suggestion is that maybe CPW should cut back on the PPVs for awhile. As it stands, there's really not enough time to build up an actual storyline, for those that are involved in angles and feuds. There doesn't seem to be as much hype going into these big PPVs as their should be, at least not to me. Just temporarily, of course.
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Post by Abraham on Mar 13, 2010 14:58:51 GMT -5
I agree with this. With only a couple shows between PPV's maybe we should cut back and do them bi - monthly.
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Post by WTFWILL on Mar 13, 2010 15:22:58 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day.
It's usually hard to get the PPV up, then a card and have people RP for the new card for only like two days, then get another show up. But I also don't think going bi-monthly is the way to do it.
Maybe we can make the first Mayhem after each PPV an all-segment show. Set up feuds, get reactions from the Pay-Per-View, hype up the new champions, etc. That way the staff don't have to worry about getting a card together that quickly and immediately turning around and writing after JUST getting the PPV up; the RPers don't have to try and get up RPs before deadline, they just have to write segments for the show; and we can give detailed attention in order to better hype feuds and matches.
So the monthly schedule would go something like:
1st week: PPV 2nd week: Segment show 3rd week: Mayhem 4th week: Mayhem New month, 1st week: PPV
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Post by hugh on Mar 13, 2010 16:25:23 GMT -5
An all segment and review show doesn't sound too appealing. We aren't all tangled up in a feud or storyline with other members, so only a few of the members would even be able to contribute to it.
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Post by Katelyn Mayhem on Mar 13, 2010 17:17:15 GMT -5
We could add maybe one or two matches to it to keep the ball rolling like TNA has been doing. One match at the start of the show with newbies and opening carders. A few segments.
One match in the middle of the show with some mid carders. More segments. The main event featuring some of the biggest CPW has to offer. Then, maybe one more segment after the main event.
People would have to be okay with having less time to rp for the few matches there would be, like if we had done a show for this week then we'd only have had 2 days to rp but I would've been okay with that. If you wanted a match you'd have to request it from Ryan and he could do a first come first serve type of thing where only the first 9 or 10 to request would be given a match. (Opening = Fatal Fourway, Mid = Tag, Main = Singles, or some variation of that.)
Heck we could set some of the segments up to look like a match like WWE and TNA do sometimes. ShowMiz versus Truth and Wisdom but it's really just a segment of Truth and Wisdom opening up a can to show that they're a serious team.
Here's what I think it could look like:
Begining: Triple Threat Match: New Guy versus New Man versus New Diva
Tony has an interview backstage.
Tiny and Biggie get in a backstage brawl.
Middle: Tag Match: Mister Face and Random Hero versus Mister Heel and Random Villian
Segment Match: Doug and Charlene have a match scheduled but before Doug can get to the ring Mike attacks him from behind.
Highlight Reel: Host Dave has Marry as his special guest.
Main Event: World Champion versus Other Main Event Guy
Show ends with Captain Ignorant being triple teamed buy three men in ski masks and they leave him in a pool of his own blood.
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Post by Katelyn Mayhem on Mar 13, 2010 17:19:39 GMT -5
Then, the next two shows could be normal. Then, we'd have our PPV.
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Post by hugh on Mar 13, 2010 17:44:08 GMT -5
If they are going to do that then they might as well just post a normal Mayhem before the results are even up. They could simply make sure that the card doesn't rely too much on the results of the show and people would just RP normally. Then at least they'd still get plenty of time to RP.
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Post by Katelyn Mayhem on Mar 13, 2010 18:04:13 GMT -5
From Joe, "The problem is, we don't need a show for the sake of having another show each month. We need it for build-up purposes. That's why we can't really go with Hugh's idea of putting a card up before the PPV. A normal card is fine. We just need to use the week like we would the other two: a normal week that's aimed at building up towards the PPV, instead of skipping that week for no real reason."
Also when I suggested my idea of the hybrid he said, "The issue you run into there is that people need to provide segments. we don't need anything special. Just for shows to get done on time, and maybe, to have the first show after the PPV take place on a Saturday instead of a Friday."
He told me he'd elaborate more whenever he got the chance.
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Post by hugh on Mar 13, 2010 18:20:45 GMT -5
Well given that wasn't my original idea, which was to cut back on the PPVs so they don't seem diminished but eh, I never expected it to go through.
Anyways at least we got a forewarning for the wall of text. Sombody should make Cam the official Joe's Foghorn guy or something.
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Post by Joe Summers on Mar 13, 2010 18:56:19 GMT -5
Hey now, it's not like Cam's special or anything. He's just the one who happened to IM me and ask what my opinion was.
That said, I'm not entirely against Hugh's original idea, though I don't think it's necessary, either. What we need more than anything is for more time in between each PPV, which in turn give feuds more time to develop, and thus, make PPVs feel more...special. I don't think that going to a bi-monthly schedule is the way to go, however.
Instead, we either need to find a way to take advantage of the weekend after each PPV. Whether we do this by getting th shows up on time and having the show that Friday, or if we push it back to that Saturday to give us writers/RPers more time, we need to start using that week to build things up, instead of just letting it go to waste.
Or, another possibility could be to go and have a PPV after a certain number of Mayhems, instead of always having it on the first Sunday of the month. It could guarantee that each PPV is built up properly, and if one or two happens to be lost along the way, then...well, whatev.
That said, I honestly think the first idea should work out fine. It's how we did things for years, and I'm pretty sure that it wasn't until recently that PPVs started to seem so...rushed, for lack of a better term.
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Post by Steve "Chuie" Johnson on Mar 13, 2010 19:29:42 GMT -5
I still think we should move Mayhem to Saturdays so it gives us another day to pretty much have almost a full week of RPing for the next show for the cases that the PPV may or may not be later.
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Post by JXM on Mar 13, 2010 22:13:45 GMT -5
I still think we should move Mayhem to Saturdays so it gives us another day to pretty much have almost a full week of RPing for the next show for the cases that the PPV may or may not be later. This or moving the ppv to fridays plus having a certain number of Mayhem to me is the best idea
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Post by WTFWILL on Mar 13, 2010 22:29:31 GMT -5
I like moving the PPVs to Friday.
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Post by Karen DiMarcio on Mar 13, 2010 22:44:07 GMT -5
The only problem with moving PPVs to Fridays is it gives the potential for a 3-4 day RP week if the show's late, which is kinda unacceptable for a PPV. And then if an extra week is added to remedy that problem..We're right back where we started.
I'd say it's better to have a potentially short Mayhem week than a potentially short PPV week.
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Post by The Jester on Mar 13, 2010 23:21:56 GMT -5
I'm more in favor of moving PPV's to Fridays than moving Mayhem. It just wouldn't seem like Mayhem if it wasn't on Friday, idk.
But I also agree with Gina. When it comes to PPV's, of course titles are always on the line, big angles, feuds, and so on. It is much better to have a short week for Mayhem as opposed to a PPV.
I'm willing to start writing matches again to help with getting things done on-time. No offense to anyone, of course, but I think that it would make a significant difference to have the results and new card up promptly. Just my two cents, but I know everyone is busy and it can be difficult to find time to write 3, 4, or more matches during a weekend, of all times. I think more writers would get the results done quicker, get the card up quicker, and thus create an extra day or two of roleplaying time every week which would essentially create more time in the time frame that already exists.
I don't want this to seem like a complaint of any sort, I've never really cared if the results and card are a day or two late. However, I do think this would alleviate some of the problems and everything wouldn't feel so rushed, but things wouldn't necessarily have to be moved around.
Again, just a thought. Regardless, I still wouldn't mind helping with the results if needed.
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